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My worst fear has come true - infamous cam chain tensioner


Anonymous 06-20-2008, 3:59 PM
So, my bikes been too loud for me to feel comfortable with it, so I again today took off the covers to adjust the valves (3rd time in 2 months).  Just for the hell of it I also decided to adjust the cam chain tensioner again, but this time I put my finger in thru the inspection port to feel around and see if everything seemed right.  THE TOP OF THE TENSIONER ISN'T CONNECTED TO ANYTHING!!!  There seems to be a clear break at the top of the tensioner, between the plastic(?) tensioner body and the metal braket the the spring works on.  Looking at diagrams and photos, it looks like the top should be solidly connected to the metal bracket that the adjuster bolt goes through.  It seems like what Rob Davis refers to as the classic "broken neck".  So............

I've read all the posts I could find about taking the engine out and fixing things, I'm assuming I should absolutely NOT ride until this is fixed.  My questions are:
1.  How tough a job is this for a single, semi-ok mechanically inclined person?  I don't have anybody who can help me with this, and don't have any indoor workspace to do anything, so if I attempt this myself it'll be an entirely outside/in the driveway thing. 

2.  How long do y'all think this will take a single person?  Since I don't have an indoor space to work, if I try this it'll have to be a single day thing, I really don't want to leave engines and parts laying outside for long.

3.  Any of you actually PAY somebody to do this?  If so, how much did it run you?

Any and all suggestions are welcome!

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PWG in Lowgap NC 06-20-2008, 4:19 PM
I have done it in the past for a flat rate of $250 plus any needed parts.  It beats the heck out of surprises.
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NstyDevil 06-20-2008, 4:26 PM
couple questions...

where are you located?

and how did you reach that far inside? i've done the finger check myself but only been able to feel the spring, can't reach inside far enough. i've got a dental mirror around somewhere, and going to try and find it to take a look inside.
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kingston73 06-20-2008, 4:48 PM
I forgot to sign in the first time, sorry.  I'm in Rhode Island.  Using my right finger, I can reach in far enough to feel the chain, and it feels very loose.  I can't see what I'm looking at, but when I look at a diagram as I'm poking around with my finger, I can kinda make a mental picture of what I'm touching, and the tensioner is clearly disconnected at the top, I can move it back and forth with my finger.  So after reading the shop manual and also Rob's site, I really don't feel like its a good idea to try this myself.  If I had a garage to do it in, or anywhere indoors, I'd be more daring, but just looking at all the crap blowing around and laying on the driveway, I just don't see any way at all I can open the engine up and keep things clean.  Since the engine seems to run fine other than this, should I bother replacing the water pump seal and stator?  Or should I just assume these will break sooner rather than later and do the whole "triple bypass" thing now?

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Shep 06-20-2008, 5:46 PM
 kingston73 wrote:
I forgot to sign in the first time, sorry.  I'm in Rhode Island.  Using my right finger, I can reach in far enough to feel the chain, and it feels very loose.  I can't see what I'm looking at, but when I look at a diagram as I'm poking around with my finger, I can kinda make a mental picture of what I'm touching, and the tensioner is clearly disconnected at the top, I can move it back and forth with my finger.  So after reading the shop manual and also Rob's site, I really don't feel like its a good idea to try this myself.  If I had a garage to do it in, or anywhere indoors, I'd be more daring, but just looking at all the crap blowing around and laying on the driveway, I just don't see any way at all I can open the engine up and keep things clean.  Since the engine seems to run fine other than this, should I bother replacing the water pump seal and stator?  Or should I just assume these will break sooner rather than later and do the whole "triple bypass" thing now?


Do you have a garden or an area where you could put up one of those cheap,"Gazebos"?Or a Large tent?
Or if you have a fence you can make an awning out of some cheap Heavey duty plastic and attach to a high fence?


If you do a stator check and it's ok leave it.If you have no problems with the water Mech seal,leave it as that can be done with the engine in-situ,

http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/cx500/mechseal.html


For the engine out you will need something to drop the engine onto.I have a trolley jack with a plate welded onto it.Some people have used skated boards to drop onto but you will need a jack to drop and lift the engine on your own.

Other than that ot's not that hard to get the engines out.
For replacing the cam chain and any other parts of that system you will need to be able to,"Lock" the engine to be able to get the main 17mm bolt out of the Starter Clutch flywheel.

This bolt has the same thread size as the Oil filter Bolt so you can take that to match up :)



There are Wrench Straps you can buy pretty cheap for this.Also a Large bolt to be able to wind it in so the flywheel once it's locking bolt is out can be extracted.Mine cost me about $20(£10) from a bolt suppliers.

If you are not confident and or don't have the facilities try and find a local bike group and join them.There will be someone local I'm sure who would most likely love help?You'd be suprised how many bikers love to get stuck into an engine









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RichNCT 06-20-2008, 7:05 PM
Shipping engines is what kills the deal usually.  But you are within driving distance of me near New Haven , CT.  I believe I have a decent cx500 CDI engine in the shed and I would sell it.  Unless you would rather make the change to a GL500 TI powerplant, got one of them too.   It'll be next monday or tuesday before I can look into it though.  We should talk. 
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kingston73 06-21-2008, 5:16 AM
New Haven's not far at all, so I'd definitely be interested.  I think I'll stick with the CDI for now, but if your engine's good it'd be worth the drive to make a fix easier than collecting all the parts I'll need.  How many miles are on your engine?  I was told by the PO that my bike had about 35000 on it, but the odometer read 8950, so if it could be closer to 40000 miles.  I'm relatively confident I can get the engine off the frame by myself, but it's the dirt and outdoor exposure that makes me worried about opening up the engine and changing the parts.  Thanks for your help!  I can't believe its been over 10 years since I had a bike, I get this one and ride it for a week and now this.  I still wouldn't trade my cx though, I love this bike.

1979 cx500D/1980 CX500C engine

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Anonymous 06-24-2008, 6:59 AM
So its looking more and more like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and try to do the fix myself. Rich above was nice enough to offer me a GL engine, but after reading the posts I think that's beyond what I'm capable of. The local shops will do the work for anywhere between 500 to 700, but only during winter. Ive read many posts concerning issues getting the alternator rotor off, is the difficulty mainly in locking the engine and having the correct bolt? Any other hidden issues in removing the rear case or the rotor?

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Shep 06-24-2008, 7:21 AM
 Anonymous wrote:
So its looking more and more like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and try to do the fix myself. Rich above was nice enough to offer me a GL engine, but after reading the posts I think that's beyond what I'm capable of. The local shops will do the work for anywhere between 500 to 700, but only during winter. Ive read many posts concerning issues getting the alternator rotor off, is the difficulty mainly in locking the engine and having the correct bolt? Any other hidden issues in removing the rear case or the rotor?


None really and don't worry as there are people here to help you.DON'T pay the garages.For a lot less you can buy good tools you need that will serve you for the rest of your life and therefore pay for themselves not just for bike.Download the manual and buy one off Ebay.

Take it step by step and I'm around for a while so if you need quick help get Yahoo instant messenger and use sheppola as the contact search.You can leave messages I'll get quickly.I'm trying to think of what job I haven't done on these bikes and so far I think it's change a swinging arm and change an Advance and retard mechcanism.Everything else I've done including build several engines back up from the Crankshaft.



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kingston73 06-25-2008, 2:39 PM
Thanks for the advice Shep. I found an engine that may or may not work, but at least the cam chain tensioner is in 1 piece. I'm going to take out the original engine and put in this new one, it has 1/2 as many miles and is 1 year newer (80 vs 79) I figure even if it doesn't work, I'll now at least have a source of extra parts. Whether it works or not, I'm still going to fix the original engine eventually. Maybe I can bribe my wife into letting me bring it into the house and work on it in the attic over the winter.

I've read all the "engine replacement" posts I can find, basically it's disconnect everything, make sure everything is disconnected, and using a jack lower the engine and pull it out to the ?left? Do I need to take the brake and/or shift levers off for this? Any other bits of advice? I'll be gone for 2 weeks, so I won't have a chance to do any of this till mid-July, but I'm sure I'm going to have some more questions for y'all later. Thanks for all the help!
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Shep 06-25-2008, 6:15 PM
 kingston73 wrote:
Thanks for the advice Shep. I found an engine that may or may not work, but at least the cam chain tensioner is in 1 piece. I'm going to take out the original engine and put in this new one, it has 1/2 as many miles and is 1 year newer (80 vs 79) I figure even if it doesn't work, I'll now at least have a source of extra parts. Whether it works or not, I'm still going to fix the original engine eventually. Maybe I can bribe my wife into letting me bring it into the house and work on it in the attic over the winter. I've read all the "engine replacement" posts I can find, basically it's disconnect everything, make sure everything is disconnected, and using a jack lower the engine and pull it out to the ?left? Do I need to take the brake and/or shift levers off for this? Any other bits of advice? I'll be gone for 2 weeks, so I won't have a chance to do any of this till mid-July, but I'm sure I'm going to have some more questions for y'all later. Thanks for all the help!


Basically as you say.You DO need to take the gear shift off but it's only one bolt.I don't think my UK CX are much different so you don't need to take the rear brake lever off.

Tip:If you have a digi camara or Cell phone with a camera take piccys as you undo/remove things.Then you have a reference when you put them back :)

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kingston73 06-26-2008, 2:39 PM
I already have a question, and I haven't even started. My donor motor looks to be in decent shape, it's not frozen but it does have some rust on it, plus lots of dirt. Two questions for now:
1. Does it matter that the final drive shaft (not sure if thats the proper name, the shaft that plugs into the swingarm shaft) has rust on it? Do I need to sand it off, and when I put it into the frame does it get greased before sliding it in and putting the boot over it?

2. It looks like there are a few cobwebs that may have made it into the cyclinder heads. Before putting it into the frame, should I take off the heads, or will anything in there just get burnt out when I start it?
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Shep 06-26-2008, 3:52 PM
 kingston73 wrote:
I already have a question, and I haven't even started. My donor motor looks to be in decent shape, it's not frozen but it does have some rust on it, plus lots of dirt. Two questions for now: 1. Does it matter that the final drive shaft (not sure if thats the proper name, the shaft that plugs into the swingarm shaft) has rust on it? Do I need to sand it off, and when I put it into the frame does it get greased before sliding it in and putting the boot over it? 2. It looks like there are a few cobwebs that may have made it into the cyclinder heads. Before putting it into the frame, should I take off the heads, or will anything in there just get burnt out when I start it?


Clean the rust off the drive shaft and Yes use some lithium grease(Moly Grease is better) on both ends of the shaft.Check the U/J(Universal Joint)(Knuckle joint) for ease of movement.If it stiff at any point some mild heat and WD40 can release it but they have pre-packed grease which the WD40 can release but sometimes the shaft has to be repleaced or the knuckle joint.This does not occur often IME.In any event re-pack the knuckle with some grease.

I wouldn't worry about the heads.What I would do is change the oil but use some really cheap 10/15/20w50 from Walmart.Run to thermostat opening temp(check the heat pipe on the left hand side of the engine when it has idled long enough it will get warm if the Thermostat is opening correctly).

Then stop the bike and dump the oil and re-fill with correct cheap 10w40 mineral oil.If the 10w40 is cheap like here then just use that for the 1st run as an engine flush.Do NOT use any commercial engine flush products,just oil.









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Connella08 06-26-2008, 7:30 PM
let me know if you get it running. id like to find out if my old motor works for you. hope everything goes well!

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kingston73 06-27-2008, 10:26 AM
Thanks Connella, I'll keep you posted. I'm going away for the next 2 weeks, so it'll be a while before I have a chance to work on it. I did have to order a new gasket for the camshaft cover in the front, and instead of reusing the fan I ordered a new one, and I'm going to get some new plugs, but hopefully that'll be all it needs
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kingston73 07-10-2008, 7:33 PM
I ordered some new parts, but one of the gaskets I needed isn't made anymore by Honda.  Any ideas for an alternative?  I know some people have  bought "build your own" type gasket kits off ebay, but what do I search for, what are those called?
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Connella08 07-10-2008, 7:38 PM
which gasket?

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Shep 07-11-2008, 4:04 AM
I've always made my own gaskets over the years even though I have bought Ready made kits.A couple of years ago I bought a cheap set of Metric punches of Ebay,


ttp://tinyurl.com/62vdp5

and I get a 2 metre length 1mm/0.8mm thick roll of Gasket paper from a local engineering supplier(Yellow Pages) for around £6/$12 which has enough to make about 3 Rear engine cover gaskets plus the middle bits left over to make countless others.Anywhere I'm not happy with if the mating faces are a biy icky I use RTV gasket sealer with them and wipe clean.
I have a small flat piece of Lead that I use as a Last to punch into(Made from some old melted down large fishing weights from the tackle shop)

The total outlay is less than the cost of one head gasket.Headgaskets are one thing I/We can't make :(
Then I don't have to wait for things as well and my gaskets are better than shop bought as I've split engines I've done with them and been able to re-use them with no problems :)





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Daniel45mpg 07-11-2008, 6:33 PM
cam chain is in the rear of the engine oil pump chain is in the front it is the oly one you can possibly touch. I didn't have this straight till i opened up the front cover to get at the cam chain. after a mech seal change i now know,..ha ha.
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Shep 07-11-2008, 7:58 PM
 Daniel45mpg wrote:
cam chain is in the rear of the engine oil pump chain is in the front it is the oly one you can possibly touch. I didn't have this straight till i opened up the front cover to get at the cam chain. after a mech seal change i now know,..ha ha. the bike teaches me. crazy.


On Lazarus one of my CXs which was made from spares and bits the Rear engine cover/Front engine cover/Clutch case cover and the Tach drive cover are all hand made.No leaks


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kingston73 07-12-2008, 7:11 AM
I found a source for gasket paper, but I have a choice between 0.4 and 0.7 mm thickness.  Which is the better, more useful size?  I'd tend toward the thicker one, but wanted to get some opinions first. 

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kingston73 07-12-2008, 9:31 AM
 Daniel45mpg wrote:
cam chain is in the rear of the engine oil pump chain is in the front it is the oly one you can possibly touch. I didn't have this straight till i opened up the front cover to get at the cam chain. after a mech seal change i now know,..ha ha. the bike teaches me. crazy.


If you take off the inspection cover, the one you use for lining up the TDC marks, and if your fingers are long enough, you can feel the tension adjuster arm and the chain behind it.  I can't really tell by touch how much of the travel is used by the adjuster, but I can definitely feel the broken tensioner arm on my old motor, and the arm on the motor I just bought is solid and in 1 piece.  I'm finally back home so I'll be able to start working on my new motor soon, and hopefully by the end of the week I'll have it ready to go into the bike and maybe by next weekend I'll have the engines swapped out and be riding again. 

The biggest question I have right now is about the cam shaft cover on the front.  Is it supposed to just easily slide on over the camshaft?  My replacement engine has the cover removed, no fan attached to the end of the camshaft.  Trying to line up the cover it seems like the left side (as you are facing it) is hitting the engine and it won't just slide on.  Is it possible the camshaft is bent?  Can that even happen?  Or do I just need to use some oil and elbow grease, along with a rubber mallet, to tap the cover into place? If y'all reading this can't picture what I'm talking about, I'll take some pictures of it this afternoon and post them up.  Thanks again for all the help so far!

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Shep 07-12-2008, 10:11 AM
 kingston73 wrote:
I found a source for gasket paper, but I have a choice between 0.4 and 0.7 mm thickness.  Which is the better, more useful size?  I'd tend toward the thicker one, but wanted to get some opinions first. 


The 0.7mm is the best.The 1.0mm I use is a bit thick but works well.The 0.7mm is nearer to the originals.Once you have got a gasket making kit together it pays for itself in no time in cost and convenience :)

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joeinblackwater 07-12-2008, 10:33 AM
Daniel, the problem you are having with the camshaft displaced to one side is due to pressure on the cam from the valve train. The solution is to push the housing on whilst turning the engine with the 17mm bolt on the front of the crankshaft. As the strain is relieved the housing should start to line up. This is not the only way, but it is one of the easyer solutions. Keep going, you will feel such a sense of achievment when all is running smoothly.

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kingston73 07-12-2008, 10:46 AM
Thanks Joe, that makes sense and I'll try that. I have to wait for my gasket material to bolt it all up, but I'm going to try your method just to make sure the cover will fit up to the engine.
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joeinblackwater 07-12-2008, 11:00 AM
Forgot to say, I cannot take credit for this tip, Joejake1 on the UK club forum has to take the credit. I have just done the camchain, pumpseal, and rewound stator job. I also changed the oil pump drive chain and lapped the valves in. It was a nice straightforward job and the engine slotted back in last Saturday, been useing her all this week - running very nicely.
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kingston73 07-25-2008, 5:12 PM
The work is going extremely slow, but its going.  I have the donor engine's valves adjusted and and cam chain adjusted, and put new plugs in it.  I got the cam cover and gasket on, and have a new radiator fan for it.  Tomorrow I'm taking off the exhaust and radiator from the original engine, and maybe sunday I'll finally pull the original and replace with the donor.  For those who have done it before, will it be easier for me to detach the tach cable from the top instrument cluster, attach the engine side of the cable, and put the radiator on BEFORE installing the engine?  Or...should I leave the radiator off, leave the tach cable attached to the gauge, put the donor engine in, and then attach the tach cable and lastly the radiator?  Any suggestions are appreciated, and thanks in advance!

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kingston73 07-26-2008, 3:23 PM
The donor's all ready, took the radiator off along with the exhaust.  Nothing ever ends up taking as long as I think it should with this bike, it seems like whatever my time estimate is I need to add 2 hours to it.  It's probably the first time the exhaust has been off the bike since it was built, and I gave up trying to get the front pipes off the Hbox, so I took of the mufflers and then removed the Hbox/front pipes as 1 unit.  I tried sanding off the rust from the Hbox but gave up and ended up putting some Rustoleum "Rust Converter" primer on it.  I know its not the best solution but its better than leaving it as it was.  I disconnected all the wires/leads/clutch cable from broken original, so tomorrow its finally Engine Out day.  I'll be doing it on my own, so does anybody have any helpful suggestions for balancing the engines on the jack as I lower and raise them?   I thought about maybe trying to use a milk crate to drop the motor onto, but I don't know if that will work. 

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Shep 07-26-2008, 6:34 PM
 kingston73 wrote:
The donor's all ready, took the radiator off along with the exhaust.  Nothing ever ends up taking as long as I think it should with this bike, it seems like whatever my time estimate is I need to add 2 hours to it.  It's probably the first time the exhaust has been off the bike since it was built, and I gave up trying to get the front pipes off the Hbox, so I took of the mufflers and then removed the Hbox/front pipes as 1 unit.  I tried sanding off the rust from the Hbox but gave up and ended up putting some Rustoleum "Rust Converter" primer on it.  I know its not the best solution but its better than leaving it as it was.  I disconnected all the wires/leads/clutch cable from broken original, so tomorrow its finally Engine Out day.  I'll be doing it on my own, so does anybody have any helpful suggestions for balancing the engines on the jack as I lower and raise them?   I thought about maybe trying to use a milk crate to drop the motor onto, but I don't know if that will work. 


Take comfort in the fact that many of use know what you are going through.BTSTGTS.

I spent many hours on my 1st CX de-rusting and drilling out bolts that hadn't been moved in 25+ years.Needless to say when re-constructing all my bolts get Moly grease/Copper grease on them or at least lithium grease(ACF50 is better) so I and whomever gets the bike after me does not have to go through what I have had to!

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kingston73 07-28-2008, 2:59 PM
Well tomorrows the day I finally put the exhaust on and plug everything back in.  I managed to take the old motor out and put the donor back in without having any pieces left over.  I'm tired and hungry and want a beer now, so I'm quitting for the day.  It ended up taking me about 2 1/2 hours total.  For somebody thinking of doing this but who isn't sure they can do it on their own, I'm living proof that it can be.  I'm not a great mechanic, but I used a plastic milk crate to drop the engine onto, it made it easier to move it.  I think the hardest part for me was getting the drive shaft back onto the spindle.  There's no WRONG way to do that, is there?  As long as I had it lined up and pulled it over the spindle, and if the set screw went in and it couldn't be pushed back off, thats it, right?  I'm just a little nervous I'll be going down the highway at 70 and the shaft will slip off or something.  As for all the electrical connections, everything has a unique mate, right?  There's no way to accidently plug one thing into the wrong thing, as long as all the colors match up?

On a side note, I realized once I took the original out and was comparing it with the donor, the donor doesn't really look used at all on the inside.  Yeah, the outside was caked with dirt and dead bugs, but the intakes are bright and shiny compared with the blackened intakes of my original.  Also, inside the rocker panels seems spotless, no varnish or off color.  The only thing wrong with the donor that I can see is the original owner must have been impatient when he took the headers off, because one of the screw posts is shorter than the others.  It looks like he got mad and just wrenched on it too hard and snapped the bolt, but it looks like theres enough left for me to put the nut on and get it snug.  If not, any ideas on how to make it work?

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Shep 07-28-2008, 3:36 PM
There's no wrong way to put the drive shaft on but they can be a PITA to get to fit back.
I hope you matched up everything as you built the engine.There is one VERY important component that can be put on thw wrong way and ruin an engine.I know,I've done it!!

It's the small driven gear that fits inside the engine final drive shaft.The teeth MUST be away from the engine before the shaft fits onto it.




If you are 100% certain it's correct then OK.If not do not run the engine.

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Connella08 07-28-2008, 6:31 PM
let me know how it fires up. i want to know how well it runs.

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kingston73 07-28-2008, 6:50 PM
 Shep wrote:
There's no wrong way to put the drive shaft on but they can be a PITA to get to fit back.
I hope you matched up everything as you built the engine.There is one VERY important component that can be put on thw wrong way and ruin an engine.I know,I've done it!!

It's the small driven gear that fits inside the engine final drive shaft.The teeth MUST be away from the engine before the shaft fits onto it.




If you are 100% certain it's correct then OK.If not do not run the engine.


I'm showing my ignorance here, but what part is that exactly?  Is it inside the swing arm?  When I took the original engine out, I did like the shop manual said and pushed the shaft backwards away from the motor.  Then, when I installed the donor I just pulled it back into place and screwed in the set bolt.  After the set bolt was screwed in, I pushed backwards on the shaft again and it stayed put, and when I put it in neutral and spin the tire it spins the shaft into the motor.

I'll write more tomorrow night, after all the pieces are put back and plugged in.  I'm going to drain the old oil that's in the donor and put in some new, run it until it (hopefully) warms up and the coolant starts to flow, maybe take it for a ride around the block.  I'm going to drain it again, change the oil filter again, and put a second batch of new oil in.  Conella: any idea about the history behind this motor?  Like I said, the intakes looked spotless, it really doesn't look like it was used much.  How many miles did the PO say it had?

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Shep 07-28-2008, 7:10 PM
I didn't mean to confuse you.The thread has got a bit dis-jointed.I thought you had stripped the back-end off an engine and re-built it and the part I'm concerned with is inside the back of the engine,not outside.It's call the Engine final drive shaft,not to be confused with the Main drive shaft that goes into the drive box at the back.


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Re: My worst fear has come true - infamous cam chain tensioner


kingston73 07-28-2008, 7:17 PM
That makes sense, and it makes me feel better knowing I didn't miss a step somewhere.  You're right, this has gotten really long.  If I have any issues with my donor engine tomorrow, I think I'll start a new post.  Thanks again for all your help so far, don't know what I'd do without this site.

1979 cx500D/1980 CX500C engine

Re: My worst fear has come true - infamous cam chain tensioner


Connella08 07-28-2008, 9:10 PM
i am fairly sure the PO stated it had appoximately 12k miles on it.

Re: My worst fear has come true - infamous cam chain tensioner


Shep 07-29-2008, 5:26 AM
 kingston73 wrote:
That makes sense, and it makes me feel better knowing I didn't miss a step somewhere.  You're right, this has gotten really long.  If I have any issues with my donor engine tomorrow, I think I'll start a new post.  Thanks again for all your help so far, don't know what I'd do without this site.


Hope she fires up OK and if all's well I hope you have changed the oil and filter.If you have I would change them again after about 500 miles just to be nice to it :)
Oil and filters are much cheaper than engines :)


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