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kickstarter is it possible?


Anonymous 07-15-2008, 9:38 PM
Is it possible to add a kickstarter to the bike? I mean to cx500.
tx in advance?

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Anonymous 07-15-2008, 9:54 PM
no, but,,,, maybe a pull cord.  

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Blindstitch2002 07-15-2008, 9:58 PM
Sure it's possible but I don't know how to do it and there probably isn't a kit for it. Just take the starter out and figure out how to make a mounting plate with the gearing sticking into the engine where it mounts and then weld a socket on the back of the rod that goes into the engine. Then put a short ratchet on it. Drill a hole in the ratchet so you can mount a rod through it that can pivot off the foot pegs. Press down on the rod and there you go.

Don't worry about a kick starter. If you want to put some muscles into starting your bike you could push start it.

1978 Honda Cx500 Maggot
1979 Honda Cx500 Custom
1980 Honda Cx500 Deluxe Couch Project Bike

CX500 Factory Service Manual
Courtesy of Randall-in-Mpls

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Blindstitch2002 07-15-2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah a pull cord would be way easier. I am still a fan of the electric starter.

1978 Honda Cx500 Maggot
1979 Honda Cx500 Custom
1980 Honda Cx500 Deluxe Couch Project Bike

CX500 Factory Service Manual
Courtesy of Randall-in-Mpls

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Connella08 07-15-2008, 10:26 PM
how DO you push start it? i sat on the bike, pulled in the clutch and put it in first gear, and rode it all the way down a hill doing like 15mph, popped the clutch and it just skidded on the back tire. do i have to put it in 5th to push start?

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Blindstitch2002 07-15-2008, 10:30 PM
This is a sensitive question. If you want to keep your balls don't do it in any gear under 5 without a hill.

1978 Honda Cx500 Maggot
1979 Honda Cx500 Custom
1980 Honda Cx500 Deluxe Couch Project Bike

CX500 Factory Service Manual
Courtesy of Randall-in-Mpls

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Connella08 07-15-2008, 10:52 PM
so you HAVE to do it in 5th gear with a hill?

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LRCXed 07-15-2008, 11:06 PM
OUCH!!!! That hurts just thinking about it Blindstitch!!!


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joeinblackwater 07-16-2008, 2:12 AM
Here's how I bump start my bikes (only when I have to). Select secont gear, pull bike backwards untill compression stops you moving, pull in clutch and pull backwards to free clutch plates. Turn on petrol and set choke etc. if needed. TURN ON IGNITION. Set off running like a mad thing, and BEFORE you collapse into a wheezing heap leap onto the seat, just as you hit the seat drop the clutch. With luck the bike fires up and you are riding away side saddle. If not lucky you slide off and try to repeat the whole procedure. Trouble is you now only have energy to push bike at 0.000001 mile an hour for about 10 inches. If your really unlucky you leap onto the bike and it doesnt start and you and the bike fall over on the opposite side. I know all these things can happen only too well.
You can never have too many forms of personal transport.

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Blindstitch2002 07-16-2008, 8:40 AM
You don't really need a hill but if you have one it's nice. I watch my brother and his friend push a Kawasaki KLR250 down a hill for 30 minutes without thinking to put new gas in it. Hadn't been running in 7 years. They got bored and gave up and went somewhere. I drained the carbs removed the old gas and in one push I got it going.

I also had a ford ranger diesel that had a faulty starter. I ended up pushing it across the parking lot where I work several times before I could afford to replace the starter. If it was a normal starter it would have been cheap. I had to order it from a salvage yard and it took forever to get to me. Exotic vehicles are nice till things break.

1978 Honda Cx500 Maggot
1979 Honda Cx500 Custom
1980 Honda Cx500 Deluxe Couch Project Bike

CX500 Factory Service Manual
Courtesy of Randall-in-Mpls

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Natrik 07-16-2008, 1:29 PM
I had a Pontiac Fiero (hold the jokes please) and had no idea that there was a saftey switch that kept the starter from turning unless the clutch was all the way to the floor. Whenever I had the clutch in, but not all the way down, it wouldn't start. I figured it was the starter, and couldn't afford one (I was 17) so I must have push started that thing fifty times before someone clued me in to the clutch switch. Never in my life had I been so fast at bypassing a switch.

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.....

1980 CX500 Custom, Hondian (found someone new)
2005 Honda VTX 1800 Retro, customization in progress

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joeinblackwater 07-17-2008, 3:03 AM
I frequently kick things that don't start.
You can never have too many forms of personal transport.

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gamache 07-17-2008, 4:51 AM
 Natrik wrote:
I had a Pontiac Fiero (hold the jokes please) and had no idea that there was a saftey switch that kept the starter from turning unless the clutch was all the way to the floor. Whenever I had the clutch in, but not all the way down, it wouldn't start. I figured it was the starter, and couldn't afford one (I was 17) so I must have push started that thing fifty times before someone clued me in to the clutch switch. Never in my life had I been so fast at bypassing a switch.


Ha, my dad had an 88 Fiero GT, and I remember when he'd ask me to start it, I'd have to basically push the clutch through the floorboards before that damn switch engaged.  There was a real difference between "clutch to the floor" and "clutch to the floor, all muscles from left hip to big toe flexed".


Pete from Boston
1979 CX500 Custom
WTB: Deluxe tank, engine bars.

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TIMEtoRIDE 07-17-2008, 7:07 AM
I KICK the old lady off, and have her push START me, does that count?

Really, when I have to bump start, I just "duck walk" in neutral, then use second gear. Pushing in N is easier than dragging a clutch in gear.
3 '82 silver wings * 250 elite * Yamahas also

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BearCX 07-18-2008, 2:53 AM
I'm not sure the Engine casing is designed well enough to have 150-200 lbs leaning on one side. Even if you did fit a kick start.
Mind you, anything is possible. I didn't believe you run a CX engine sideways, or with only one cylinder, but I was proven wrong.....

For the expense and PIT A$$, Buy a different bike. Youll never get your money back on this model.

Just my 10 cents..

If you're still in control...You're not going fast enough.

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Sidecar Bob 07-20-2008, 5:33 PM

When they brought out the GoldWing in '75 they figured that, even though no-one had built a car with a crank start for decades, the world wasn't redy for a bike without a kickstart so they added one. If you haven't been intimte with an early GL1000, the kicker worked via a lever arrangement on the outside of the crankcase at the back that rotated the crankshaft via a rtchet. The lever stored inside the shelter (the thing that looks like a fuel tank) when not in use and had to be plugged into the mechanisim when needed.

They stopped putting them on in '79 because no-one used them except in emergencies and it would bump start almost as easily.

That said, in answer to your original question: Yes. Anything is possible if you are determined enough. And have enough time & resources. And are obsessive enough. Heck, Bert Munro broke land speed records on 40 yeaar old bike with tires that he shaved the tread off of with a carving knife and filled the cracks with shoe pollish to pass tech inspection.

Re bump starting: I can usually get my 650 to start by riding it downhill in 2nd and letting the clutch out at about 10 Km/h. The trick is to use 2nd gear or higher - you won't get the engine turning over fast enough to start in 1st. You also have to make sure the key is on and there is fuel in the carbs.


GX650EI + Velorex 700 (winter), '83 GL1000 (summer)
'84 CB750SC Nighthawk (died - anyone need parts?)

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Blindstitch2002 07-20-2008, 6:43 PM
You forgot to mention that Burt Munro did that with a 40 year old bike in 1967. So a 40 year old bike 40 years ago.

1978 Honda Cx500 Maggot
1979 Honda Cx500 Custom
1980 Honda Cx500 Deluxe Couch Project Bike

CX500 Factory Service Manual
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