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   03-30-2009, 12:06 AM
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Hello all!

I'm looking for a IngniTech Sparker DC-CDI-P2

Help! It's almost warm enough to ride!





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As they are made by a Czech company and pretty radical I suspect you would have to import,

http://www.ignitech.cz/english/dccdip2/dccdip2.htm

As you most likely know ReggieCX and associate have had success using one as a replacement for the Standard CDI unit,

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/cxism/CX_CDI.aspx

I keep thinking there must be a way to use some other CDI units off other bikes.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZcdiQ20unitQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR40QQ_mdoZ

but my knowledge of the subject is lacking.

Or there may be a tunable universal CDI until over there in the US.





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I was very interested in ReggieCX's success using the ignitch CDI in a CX500. I have not been able to find any type of follow-up on how it turned out. Also, do you know if they (or anyone else)have put together a step by step post on how to install that system? It looks like a better option than finding a used one on Ebay or trying to build one yourself. What I saw on the website looked very promising.
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I forwarded Jakes email to the managers of the UK CX club
who have regular contact with Ignitech.
Hopefully they'll help him out.
The unit we put in Trevs bike last December has been a complete success so far
The stator and advance coils were failing/failed and the bike has been
running really well since.
If TrevH sees this I'm sure he'll add to the comments
More and more guys in the club have started use them with similar results
One guy thought his bike was OK but said it feels much smoother throughout
the rev range now and pulls well
Colin in Edinburgh had rebuilt his motor and had a new stator but had a flat spot at 6 thou which didnt happen with his Ignitech
He's ordered another one for his other bike
Another guy is dumping the CDI stator and just keeping the L&R pulsers
and using the higher power G7 (TI) stator.
These are easier and cheaper to get here BTW
I have a Eurosport TI motor in my bike now so havent used one but probably would if I had a CDI motor

I like the whole concept of not having to rely on those god awful CDI  stators
advance coils and unobtainable (new) CDI boxes
Many worthy attempts were made to provide new ones but the flaw was 
it still relied on the stators and advance coils.
Sheps mentioned alternatives which may possibly be utilised but its up to someone with
a CDI to test and report back the results
Ray in Australia is developing his own version which he said will be open source
so may give CDI guys a cheaper alternative
Good on Ya Ray !!
The more options the better I say

BTW
The Ignitech is Soooooooooooo easy to install
It works out of the box and just needs a 12V pick up







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I would definitely be interested in looking into this down the road.. Maybe we can find someone to send them over to this side of the pond.

Reg.. I have read your write up (at least I thought it was yours) about installing it. It looks like a really nice option to get away from these stators and pulsars.



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Adam
I have little or no idea what the postage/custom fees would be to send an item
which is what I think is about 140 odd Euros from the Czech republic to the
US or Canada
Be thankful it isnt in the UK where the Royal Mail  seems to be run
by a bunch of robbing b*stards



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I'm game also.   Has to be better than trying to find and buying a stator and CDI.

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Hey Reg, thanks for all your help! I appreciate it.  Hopefully someone will get back to me about this. I don't understand why IgniTech will not return my emails to purchase their cdi box. Very Frustrating.

Thanks for your reply as well Shep!

As far as the cost to buy one from IgniTech, their web site says 147 Euro ($194.95us) plus 35 Euro ($46.42us) for shipping and export charges.

If I have to ride my CX on one cylinder I will!!!  Would that make it a CX250 then?

I'm doing some research to try and find a programmable universal cdi box here in the US, I'll post what I find out.

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I did a search and found a blog, I don't know anything about electronics so it may not be of any use for our bikes. On that page there is a link to more details.
This is for a single, but apparently can be built for a twin.

http://alfredoblogspage.blogspot.com/2007/05/programmable-cdi-capacitive-discharge.aspx





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jkvigs, please keep us posted on what you find. I'm going to be looking into this further once I get my engine back together. I'm still on my original stator and CDI, and know that its probably only a matter of time before I have problems. If I can find another way around the CDI system, that will definately be the route I go.

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Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you know I emailed Ignitech this morning about purchasing the programmable CDI for my 1979 CX500. They responded advising the price is 123.53 EUR. Freightage is 15.97 EUR. Custom clearance is 27.73 EUR. They accept PayPal and bank transfer. This cost may vary according to your location. Can anyone translate the cost in to U.S. currency? They also requested my mailing address so they could send an invoice.
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$221.27

1 EUR = 1.32317 USD
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Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you know I emailed Ignitech this morning about purchasing the programmable CDI for my 1979 CX500. They responded advising the price is 123.53 EUR. Freightage is 15.97 EUR. Custom clearance is 27.73 EUR. They accept PayPal and bank transfer. This cost may vary according to your location. Can anyone translate the cost in to U.S. currency? They also requested my mailing address so they could send an invoice.



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You've got these over there.

Programmable CDI

I wonder if one or two of these can be used?


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 Shep wrote:
You've got these over there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Wolf-Programmable-CDI-for-Kawasaki-KX-125-KX125-99_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem270333907965QQitemZ270333907965QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


I wonder if one or two of these can be used?



That's an idea.. would need to check out the specs and requirements for that box to see if it could be made to work.

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These programmable ones use the Battery as a source and not coils in the Stator so they should be able to be adapted to my mind.
I wish I had more knowledge of this area but I'm sure it's doable and at a lot less cost.


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Hey guys. Thanks for the currency conversion. I wish there was a KNOWN working version of one of these CDI's in the states. If not I sure don't mind spending my hard earned $ overseas. Still waiting for Ignitech's invoice.
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Can you explain how you contacted them? What email address did you use?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>jkvigs wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Can you explain how you contacted them? What email address did you use?<br></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey jkivigs. The email address I used was ignitech@ignitech.cz. If you're using AOL you might want to check your spam folder. Their response may be there.
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Well son of a *@#$%*!!!

Their email with invoice attached was in my spam folder. Medic, good call, and thank you.

Back down to DEFCON 5

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 medic1 wrote:
Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you know I emailed Ignitech this morning about purchasing the programmable CDI for my 1979 CX500. They responded advising the price is 123.53 EUR. Freightage is 15.97 EUR. Custom clearance is 27.73 EUR. They accept PayPal and bank transfer. This cost may vary according to your location. Can anyone translate the cost in to U.S. currency? They also requested my mailing address so they could send an invoice.
  Interesting, I have not been hit with a custom clearance at all ordering/importing motorcycle parts from across the pond.

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Well son of a *@#$%*!!!

Their email with invoice attached was in my spam folder. Medic, good call, and thank you.

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No problem. Could you please report back on your progress. I've been waiting for a response from them regarding an invoice but haven't heard back yet.

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Medic they sent the invoice as a pdf attachment. So check the email you got from them for an attachment.

The total cost was $227.10 US or 167.23 EUR

Thanks to everyone for all your help!

I'll update as soon as I get it and get it installed.

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Yeah I got an invoice from them. I'm not sure if I'll receive my CDI before you or not so please keep us all informed.
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Well, just sent the money via paypal...  Can't wait to get the CDI from them...  has anybody else gotten theirs yet?

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One of you guys better do a good write up on it when your done installing and testing along with all the fun involved in doing it.

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From what I have read.. it is pretty easy.. comes pre wired.. just plug and play...   The software adjustments for timing curves, and Rev limit.. should be interesting I will take pics and such during the install.
The CDI was only $225 with tax and export, and shipping.. Not bad really considering its coming  from the other side of the pond..   When and if my stator goes or the timing chain needs done.. I will get a GL500 stator to put in it..  would be nice to have the extra power for lights, and heated gear.

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I emailed IgniTech last night and they said my cdi shipped out today, so it takes them a little more than a week to ship.



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Looking forward to hearing feedback on the CDI units ... just picked up a '78 CX500 and it is currently only firing on the right bank of the engine. 



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Welcome BoostedFour.  One cyl is not uncommon, could be a number of reasons from carbs to just needing to run a bit. 



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Interesting ... never thought about carbs ... what are some other reasons only one banks would fire.  I dont want to spend money on something that wont fix the issue.  I have let it run for a period of time and still nothing on the left side.

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Try swapping your coils.  See if the problem moves to the other side.  Same for plugs/wires.



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Ok ... swapped coils from left to right .... problem continues on left side.  I have also swapped spark plug boots from left to right and did not resolve issue or move from left to right.  I do however have more information ... at higher revs it does fire on the left side.

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An easy thing to check is if you are getting a strong spark from your plugs. Take them out and re-connect them to the plug caps, ground them against the engine or something metal on the bike, turn the motor over and see what color spark you get. Blue = Good, Yellow/orange = Weak, No spark = Take a wild guess.

This is a good post to check out several things that could cause your problem. http://www.elsham.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/cx500/wontgo/

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Ok ... swapped coils from left to right .... problem continues on left side.  I have also swapped spark plug boots from left to right and did not resolve issue or move from left to right.  I do however have more information ... at higher revs it does fire on the left side.
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The new CDI arrived in the mail on Thurs. 7 days from when they shipped it, they shipped it the day after I sent the money, evening time to next morning. If the produc is as good as the service, this should be good.
 I just got back into town tonight. Will try to get it installed tomorrow... I will take pics, of the install, and anything that seems important.  

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Got it all done... bike runs.. about to go out for a test run.. if its good I will be out riding for a while..  I took pics of the install, and a vid of it running.. Will post later tonight.. kinda busy today....  its a short weekend for me, I have to have a load in Atlanta at 0700 Mon morn...

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Hi,
He's gone a long ride ! must be running good :-)

I have one of these Ignitech cdi's on my 78 500
3months, 4,000mls later it still puts a smile on my face when I open her up. The old girl never accelerated like this, I lost the flat spot it always had around 5,000-5500rpm and only need a quarter of the throttle to get the same performance it had flat out. The white coil on the stator had problems and also the advance coils must have been poor.

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Yep !!!!!  Running great. Seems like the power is better 4-7000 RPM.   Here are the pics of the install.. sorry forgot to take pics of the CDI before I installed it.. sorry.

I would recomend looking at and saving all the data they give you on the CD that comes with the CDI.. on that CD is a CX500 specific wiring diagram that tells you what color wire on the CDI goes to what on the bike.

Here are the steps..
The big clip connects to the big clip on the bike... they do not actually clip together.. the snap design is different.. but they are firmly together. I guess you could tape it to make sure it would not come apart.



The ORANGE  wire on the CDI goes to the PINK wire (right coil) on the bike.


The WHITE wire on the CDI goes to the YELLOW wire (left coil) on the bike


The GREEN wire on the CDI goes to the BLACK&WHITE wire on the bike. This is the wire from the kill switch.


The RED wire on the CDI goes to switched 12V+ I believe it is a black wire on most bikes.. it is red on mine due to a melted wire at the front. It attaches with a clip on style connector



I  did not like the idea of the COM port being exposed to moisture and dirt.. so I wrapped it up in a piece of a plastic bag and then covered that with electrical tape.


I also did that to the now unused  plug on the bike (the blue/white from the old CDI)




Here it is all finished... wires tucked in fairly neat and zip tied.


I made a video clip that goes over the install, and shows it running.



Well that's about it... I highly recomend this product.. they were fast on the proccess, and fast on the shipping.





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Hi Ken,

I knew you would be pleased with it, seems like a lot of bucks to lay out but when you consider it replaces the cdi, stator ign. coils and the advance coils, its worthwhile and its simply plug in without pulling the motor.
You've done a good write up there, be careful of those wires going over the frame member,they may get cut by the seat base,also try a better splice connection, may be our climate here but those types seem to corrode fast.
I stayed with the out of the box settings on mine as I figured they had done their research on it.
Also for anyone who has a chewed tacho drive, there is an output for an electric tacho and a side stand cut out if needed.
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Very pleased.. I hope the guys at IgniTech get some more orders. They were great...really could not have been more easy. The respond to the Emails, shipped it right away, and to top it all of the CDI is super.

Thanks  for the compliment on the write up.. I will look at the wires over the frame.. but I am pretty sure there is no way for it to go under it... on my friends CX Custom it does go under.. but the "hole" is not there on my bike. The CDI that was in there was routed that way... and I saw no signs of chaffing...but I will check again.

I plan to stay with the settings too.. at least for now...  Do you know if the rev limit is set in it??? at 10,000RPM??   If not I would like to do that at least.. Kinda nice to have that.

Ken

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Fantastic job and write up :)

Trev.Have you done a fuel/mileage check and any changes and did you get stung for any import duty on the one you bought ?


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Nice one Ken !!
good write up and pics
I hope you're as pleased with it as the guys here are with theirs.
(I was a wee bit concerned about your blnkers but when you said the
camera was obstructing your view of  the clocks it became clear.
Been there, done that meself )

The bike seemed to pull well in the vid.
Is it significantly better than before?
Was it ailing before or is this a 'do it anyway' job?

Trev will be able to say for sure, but I dont recall the 8 way connector
we got on his being quite the same as the one on yours.
IIRC, it was plain and unlatched.
My suspicion is that Ignitech are unable to source exact matching mouldings
for these connectors.
No biggie as they say, but it would benefit from being booted
to keep the weather out

Edit:
Re settings, as Trev says I;d leave em be unless you realy feel they need to be changed



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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>Shep wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Trev.Have you done a fuel/mileage check and any changes and did you get stung for any import duty on the one you bought ?<br><br></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Shep,
I'm getting 55-58 mpg (UK Gall.) which considering the bike is running at 75mph for 90% of its time is good (plug colour spot on). No import duty but if you can get 5 buyers together they will give a discount. I had one trade rate as a trial for further purchases from the UK club, don't quote me I'm not certain but I think it came at about 110 euro's.
Delivery service to the door was prompt.
Ken, I think the standard setting on the rev. limiter is 11,000rpm which is a little high, 10,000 would better, if you have a laptop with a com port its 2 minutes, I had to get a usb - com adapter for mine.
One interesting thing cropped up and that was that the standard Honda rev counter on mine was bang on with the computer set up.
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 Reg in Bristol wrote:
Nice one Ken !!
good write up and pics
I hope you're as pleased with it as the guys here are with theirs.
(I was a wee bit concerned about your blnkers but when you said the
camera was obstructing your view of  the clocks it became clear.
Been there, done that meself )

The bike seemed to pull well in the vid.
Is it significantly better than before?
Was it ailing before or is this a 'do it anyway' job?

Trev will be able to say for sure, but I dont recall the 8 way connector
we got on his being quite the same as the one on yours.
IIRC, it was plain and unlatched.
My suspicion is that Ignitech are unable to source exact matching mouldings
for these connectors.
No biggie as they say, but it would benefit from being booted
to keep the weather out

Edit:
Re settings, as Trev says I;d leave em be unless you realy feel they need to be changed




Thanks.. for the compliments..   My CDI had gone out.. worked one day.. POOF!!!  dead then next time I tried to start the bike. I was able to borrow a CDI from my friend who has a non running CX.(long story) But as soon as I saw this IgniTech CDI I knew it was what I wanted.
Have to repeat.. I was very happy with the service I got, they sent it the morning after they got the money via Paypal, and it was here in like 7 days or so. And they respond to the emails promptly.

Glad you all like the post.. and my YouTube debue.

Ken

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Hi.

Does it have the same shape of advance curve like original CDI? 

According to my experience is better when is full advance sooner (3500-4000 rpm), then is better fuel consumption.


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Very informative thread... compliments from here too.

Wondered if there are any specific directions for installation in regard to mounting the unit. Direct contact with metal to provide a heat sink? Don't know if there is really any heat generated.

If not necessary maybe mounting securely on a rubber pad for vibration considerations would be good. Overkill possibly but I like doing things that way.

I'm thinking seriously about getting one just to have around for "someday".

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There were no mounting directions that I saw.. and the box is smooth. The CDI case is a hard plastic.. so it would not transfer much heat anyway.  I did put some bubble wrap under it to soak up vibration and shock, then zip tied it to the frame. The unit is pretty heavy and very solid feeling.

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